Govt drops mandate, MSD keep firing staff anyway

The Ministry of Social Development is not withdrawing it’s termination of hundreds of unvaccinated staff despite the Prime Minister announcing that the vaccination mandate is to end.

WTF is that about?

The latest twist in the MSD vaccine policy mandate saga: despite the removal of vax passes and legislatively ordered mandate for most sectors by 4 April 2022, notices of termination to staff who are not fully vaccinated, pregnant, or who have not agreed to get novovax by a certain date, then it’s “no jab no job”.

For most staff, their final day is 8 April 2022, while some, after months of stressful working conditions and uncertainty as to their future employment, have already left and taken pay in lieu of notice.

The Ministry of Social Development, the Ministry responsible for caring for New Zealand’s most vulnerable citizens (insert tongue in cheek here), was never subject to a legislated mandate order. But like most Government departments and Ministries, they decided to gerrymander to their over-reaching Minister anyway.

The MSD vaccine policy comes courtesy of nine, unelected officials who call themselves the Leadership Team.

MSD began calling staff on Monday 7 March 2022 advising that final notices of termination would be issued in the coming days, in contravention of advice issued by the Public Service Commission on Friday 4 March 2022 to re-think the risk assessment and get legal advice before proceeding with any planned terminations.

The MSD Staff Group opposing the terminations filed an urgent injunction to the Employment Relations Authority seeking a ruling that MSD withdraw the termination notices, together with other claims. Among their arguments was that the risk assessment on which the policy was based was faulty.

In addition to failing to consult with the affected group on the risk assessment, MSD placed all 9,200 staff into two groups – front line staff and office staff. No analysis of individual roles or sites was undertaken.

The injunction also seeks to remedy that MSD has not “exhausted all reasonable options” in relation to staff before proceeding to termination.

The primary option sought by the applicants and other staff is that they be allowed to work from home for 3-6 months while we see what happens with the pandemic. MSD refused on the basis that it would not allow “open-ended work from home arrangements because no one could predict how long the pandemic would last”.

This mandate also applied to staff who had only ever worked from home.

MSD action so far in response to the injunction indicated they will be fighting it on every legal and administrative point. (Editor: Well, good for them! Nothing like a bit of hubris to argue your point!)

One has to wonder why, when all other government departments paused their terminations and policies following the PSC’s advice that MSD continues to march forward to argue their right to fire unvaccinated staff.

The MSD Staff Group, consisting of around 250 employees, has made extensive efforts to consult with the “Leadership Team” in good faith through submissions since late November 2021,  requesting information and seeking to have input in to subsequent risk assessments. However, MSD has consistently stated “consultation is closed” after the initial consultation period of seven business days.

Although the MSD group managed to put in a detailed submission within the truncated ‘consultation’ period, MSD never replied to the issues and questions raised in it, and has consistently stonewalled, delayed, and denied affected staff access to information that adversely affected their employment which is in direct contravention of the law, by the way.

There has been an absence of good faith – the cornerstone of any employment relationship – in their dealings with staff. We’d go as far as to say the “Leadership Team” have acted unconscionably and amorally, creating processes for appearances sake, while always intending to enforce a vaccinate or terminate position.

Thirty-nine applicants are joined as parties to the proceedings, but the expectation is that a win for one is a win for all MSD staff, including those who have taken pay in lieu, as well as all persons affected by employer-mandated vaccination policies.

Dates for the hearing are expected to be announced next week and it is critical MSD do not try to delay the process because once terminations become effective, the group would be required to re-file on the grounds of reinstatement, incurring further costs and delays to staff reliant on the income to feed their families.

Meanwhile, wait times for MSD clients are consistently between 70 and 150 minutes, because MSD is drastically understaffed, while Covid runs rampant among the vaccinated workforce. Does the irony never end in today’s government environment? (Editor: Yes, that’s rhetorical.)

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8 Responses

  1. I would like to correct you comment regarding wait times for clients to access MSD staff.
    I had my supported living payment (permanent disability) and all associated non-taxable allowances cut by 70% the other week (22feb) without warning.
    The website was down and gives no relevant information normally anyway.
    I randomly the call centre 3 times the morning of the 24th when I realised my rent hadn’t been paid. I rang a further 4 times, once every 30 minutes, that afternoon until the call centre stopped hanging up on me and finally put me in the queue. I then waited 114 minutes for a call back.
    So actually the wait time is 187 minutes to get into the queue plus 114 for a total wait time of 301 minutes.

    And this is on a good day.

    I then had to spend several days begging other people to get hold of the paperwork I was not told about and another 2 days yes two separate days once again ringing MSD every 30-60 mins until I got into the queue. In order the tell them to update my records through the urgent team so that I could be paid on time that evening 1Mar.

    At this time I also put in a formal complaint to MSD.
    I received a reply last week 23mar. Along with asking what I was actually complaining about -because the person taking the complaint was so out of touch with their clients she couldn’t even comprehend it enough to put appropriate notes into my file – I got this response:

    “Wait times
    The Ministry aims to answer all calls to our 0800 services as quickly as possible. Due to the impact of COVID-19 and subsequent changes both to the Ministry’s operating environment (e.g. limited face to face interactions) as well as economic changes, we’ve seen a significant increase in demand for our phone-based services. In the past 24 months, the Ministry has opened additional contact centre locations in Dunedin and Christchurch, and we have an extensive recruitment plan underway – this is all with the goal of helping as many callers as possible. At times our phone lines have seen such a huge demand that wait times have been extremely long.“

    So basically we saw this coming, we ignored the problem we already had pre covid, and we think it is perfectly reasonable to not pay you and then not answer the phone or even have a working website.


  2. Man this in unfair for the workers!! No wonder when you ring in MSD you have to wait for so long, they are treating their staff unfairly!! But yes you go and keep staying free, no one should have to vax this is meant to be country! And I don’t understand why you insist when the government has taken the mandate down, MSD leadership, you are so wrong in what you’re doing!

  3. I can’t get my head around MSD’s decision on unvaxxed staff to be terminated at so many levels. The government has removed the mandate yet MSD is acting oblivious to that. The Bill of Rights protects individual freedom, albeit with some provisos,but MSD is crushing that liberty. At the ER level MSD has grossly acted in bad faith so far.
    Hopefully the injunction will drive commonsense into MSD.

  4. This is totally unacceptable and whoever is running the show at MSD needs a wake up call, a ‘how to treat people 101’. Why is no one holding these complete muppets to account? This is a MINISTRY, for the people, social services ffs! They have been placed in a position of trust and should be serving ALL the people of New Zealand.. shame on them.

  5. Meanwhile… the ACC refuses to mandate covid SHITSHOT…
    … because of the high number of “covid vaccine” adverse injury claims

    The entire bureaucratic/central, regional, local governmental Kraken with its multi arms and tens of thousands of suckers draining Kiwi’s of prosperity needs a nuke up it’s ARSEnal of corruption

    The Wellington freedom campaign stabbed it in the eye…

    When it’s stinking dead is the goal, however long it takes.

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